Odd Warping Problem

[vanvliet]

I'm new to Live which I intend to use for dj'ing and am still trying to figure out the intricacies of warping a long piece if auto warping doesn't do the trick or needs some fine tuning ( usually the case I've found).
Today while attempting to warp Felix Da Housecat's "Silver Screen, Shower Scene" I encountered an interesting problem.
I use the metronome as a reference when warping. During the second break the beat drops out and when it comes back it is no longer in sync with the metronome. I have tried to correct this manually by moving warp markers to where I think (sometimes guess) where they should be by looking at the waveform with limited success. I always seem to end up with a segment or two between markers where the audio sounds compressed or elongated, speeds up or slows down.
Has anyone encountered this problem? Any advice for a beginner?
I'm kind of bewildered.

[Rambunkcious]

Vanvliet,

Hi and welcome to the forum, have you tried the techniques mentioned in the live 8 warping tutorial?

it can be located here:
http://www.medwaystudios.com/Ableton-8-T...orial.html

Hope that helps.

[admin]

Vanvliet,

Sounds like you are moving the markers too far and creating an unnatural stretch. Also make sure you are using Complex Pro as that seems to be the best for program material.

I'll have to see if I have that track handy and will see what the issue is.

[vanvliet]

The Complex pro warping mode tip was very helpful. Thank you.
Have you ever had Live erase warp markers in a clip even after you made sure you saved them?
I spent several days meticulously warping a bunch of tracks and methodically saving them and reopening them to make sure the markers had been saved. Today I discovered most of my work was gone and most of the clips I warped were as they were before I set to work on them. You can imagine my frustration (something Live seems to have an unlimited capacity for generating). Any clues?

[admin]

did you check to see if the .asd files were still there? Make sure they are in the same folder as the tracks they go with. Also did you originate with mp3s? Perhaps these got converted to wav and the cache directory is messed up.