apple loops utility issue

[NuEra]

A while ago I bought the RIEMANN Kollektion 02 Techhouse Beats. They come with some loops in wav format. I wanted to make apple loops out them. I imported into apple loops utility and it detects the transients perfectly and plays a perfect loop. I save it and it creates the .aiff but when i bring the file into logic (or try to play it looping in quicktime) the loop is not perfect. what up with that??

[admin]

Weird, wish I could help but don't have access to Logic at the moment so hopefully someone else can..

When you inspect the loops do they look perfectly trimmed?

[sven hauck]

So were you just wanting to convert the loops on the disc?

[NuEra]

Yeah, they are .wav loops and I wanted to make them into apple loops. In the loop utility they are perfect, but when I drag the new .aiff file into logic they are not perfect..

Jesse...no, when I zoom in real close the loop falls just a bit short of the bar. and because its an apple loop its locked and i cant just drag it out...I'll have to examine more of them to see if they are all like this

[sven hauck]

Hmmm, guess I'm wondering why you don't just use the wav loops. They work fine on my Mac.

This reminds me of loop cd's from the olden days when they had loops that were not one full bar or whatever the measure was. They were slightly shorter and unless I'm mistaken, it didn't matter because the hardware sampler could loop it just fine. This may or may not be the case.

How about trying a freeware converter utility and see if you get the same results?

[Waylo]

i know its not the answer you're looking for... but in that situation i would throw it in ableton, rewire into logic, then bounce it at the right tempo into logic.

[admin]

I've never really used apple loops so not sure what the advantage is over just using wave loops in logic like Sven suggested.

Doug's suggestion is good as well, can't really beat live for previewing loops. from what I remembered with a recent session in Logic you have to either keep hitting play in the logic audio browser or click a new loop before the other one is finished, so a bit of a pain.

Due to some issues with Live recently I worked on a new track in Cubase but as soon as I went to load some loops I instantly missed Live so had to rewire..

[Edel]

Nu, I took some time out to check on the issue you are having with wav converted to apple loops files. As far as i can tell the apple utility is working fine. For some weird reason if you tried to drag in aiff files without auditioning it first within the loop browser it doesn't work when you change the tempo. So try auditioning the loop files you created first then drag it in and see if it works when you change the tempo. I've attached 3 of the same audio loop in various tempo from the Reimann Kollektion so at least you know that there's nothing wrong with the Sample Pack.

PS: I didnt tweak the warp markers before saving it as an apple loop file so it might be a tiny wee bit off.
The tempo changes & bounces were made in Logic itself.

[NuEra]

Edel, thanks so much for looking into this for me. I'm still trying to figure it out, but in the meantime I have a question...is it possible for a wav loop to work in logic like an apple loop does? ie, drop it in and its right on time?

the reason i have been preferring apple loops is the easy previewing and the fact that it is zero work to get the loop in time with my project..

[Edel]

hi Nu, im glad to be of any help

in regards to your question, you can't just drop wav files and make it work in time in logic unfortunately. you can however time stretch it by holding down the option key and stretch |>>>|. Logic 9 has the new flex time which is reported to be pretty good for this purpose. Another option is to go and download a copy of ableton lite so you can use it just to loop stuff. i know its extra work but its free. Hope you get that utility working..