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A little off topic but pretty cool...
#11
Well put Sven, but if you could elaborate on the fifth dimension, that would be great, and how light vibrates in it.

Ive been blown away by the foruth, i believe that time is a very important dimension in all aspect of life and the universe. It absolutely blows me away.

Also I was under the impression that to fold space/time you didnt need more than 4 dimensions.


Rambunkcious
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#12
The mystery on the duality of light came about in the 19th century. The question was, how does light travel through a vacuum?

Experiments showed that light behaves both as a particle and as a wave, so wouldn't light need something to 'wave' in the vacuum of space to propel itself forward? When scientists of the time looked at conventional waves, they found that water waves require water, and sound waves require air to propagate through the medium.

So what they did, as they couldn't explain it, they came up with the substance called 'aether' which supposedly filled the vacuum of space, and which was the medium that light used for propagation.

Well, there was a theory that came about this century that seemed pretty far fetched, but it postulated that if light could travel through a vacuum, it was because the vacuum itself was vibrating, in the form of the 5th dimension.

The theory had its flaws though, and without getting into it, it was basically the springboard for new theories, the supergravity and superstring concepts. While no experiment has proven the existence of a 5th dimension, over 200 international physics conferences have been sponsored on the topic.

About folding space, yes, gravity can do that in 3 dimensions, but I was referring to something like a massive distortion, maybe causing a wormhole, thereby theoretically enabling travel over vast distances in short periods of time.

Some good reading on this: Hyperspace by Michio Kaku
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#13
Rambunkcious Wrote:They've actually taken a picture of the big bang (should be able to find it online). Based on Einstein's work, and the data scientists have collected since the the inception of his theories they've been able to deduce a singularity from which all began whose force continues to expand the universe further out.

Rambunkcious

Not sure if this is referring to the same thing you're talking about but interesting:

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/star...round.html

Essentially using temperature maps to look back to the Big Bang. This is dated 2 years ago and they expected then for it to take 2 decades to finish. In the meantime you can always turn on a non cable tv to see some of the Big Bang radiation floating around.
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#14
ya thats it Jes, wanna see some sick pics try googling "the pillars of creation" or "the mountains of creation" its where stars are born.

Thats some interesting reading sven thanx.


bunkcious
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#15
Yeah, anytime. One of my favorite books. Kinda does justice to what Einstein was after but had eluded him for the last 30 years of his life.
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