Hello... and a vocal question.

[olidenson]

Just wanted to introduce myself and thank everyone who contributes to this great forum.

I'm looking forward to getting involved here and also getting some tracks finished so I can ultimately get them mastered.

I have picked up some decent techniques along the way and love sharing ideas.

For today though, I wonder if anyone can offer me a little advice.

I'm trying to figure out the vocal processing tricks that are abundant on Sasha's Involver 2. Most particularly the track "Flavor" by Girls In Hawaii (Sasha remix).

Ive made a snippet of said vocal and looped it 3 times here

It sounds so sparkly and cuts through really well. It has a kind of reverse reverb thing going on and also a type of flanging effect that seems to occur on the sibilance.

Anyone have any clue where to start trying to get this sort of sound.

I use Ableton Live 8 along with N.I. Komplete, Alchemy, Arturia Moog & ARP , Melodyne and Waves Diamond Bundle.

Im looking for pretty in depth advice if possible, I tend to really get into the mechanics of production and enjoy hearing in depth and broad suggestions.

Thanks in advance.

[admin]

Hi welcome to the forum..

Can you check the attachment again as I don't see it in the post.

[olidenson]

Hi and thanks for your quick response.

Hopefully it's attached this time!

Thanks again.

[JBordonaro]

Great question Oli... I'm also interested in how they get that sound with the vocals. Hopefully someone can shed some light on this. Anyone have any ideas?

[admin]

Had a quick listen.. I hear some harmonizing, slight pitching shifting up and down to create the kind of spacey quality of the vocal along with I'm sure some reverb.. The vocals are pretty hipassed as well making them light and this also helps bring out the effects on them. There's also a tight flange type of effect where the vocal is just phasing out with itself, try small delay values or even use something with a manual control to dial it in tight..

Then it sounds like the vocals have been bounced down and reversed and filtered, especially at one point the filter helps further create the illusion of them going backwards.

Best thing to do is first process them to sound nice and light and airy and then bounce them down through other effects, reverse, chop and filter with automation to tie them all together. It's just a matter of experimenting then to find pieces that work together well. You could compress them all in a buss as well to further glue them together,

[JBordonaro]

Wow, thanks for replying so promptly Jesse, lots of great ideas to experiment with here. All of those suggestions sound accurate to me. I'm looking forward to trying out some of these techniques on vocals in the near future.

[admin]

Almost meant to say that one of the parts around 1:04-1:05 the filter cutoff sounds like it's being automated down.

Anyways good luck, you can always post something you come up with here if you need ideas on it.

[NuEra]

Had a quick listen.. I hear some harmonizing, slight pitching shifting up and down to create the kind of spacey quality of the vocal along with I'm sure some reverb.. The vocals are pretty hipassed as well making them light and this also helps bring out the effects on them. There's also a tight flange type of effect where the vocal is just phasing out with itself, try small delay values or even use something with a manual control to dial it in tight..

Then it sounds like the vocals have been bounced down and reversed and filtered, especially at one point the filter helps further create the illusion of them going backwards.

Best thing to do is first process them to sound nice and light and airy and then bounce them down through other effects, reverse, chop and filter with automation to tie them all together. It's just a matter of experimenting then to find pieces that work together well. You could compress them all in a buss as well to further glue them together,

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[olidenson]

Wow. I was out of town and when I got back I saw your response.

Thank you so much for a wonderfully detailed suggestion. I can't wait to try those ideas out, and I will def upload my results.

I never even thought about filtering to get a reverse effect!

Any insight as to which is the best harmonizing plug in, or should i just simply pitch copies of my vocal up and down?

Thanks Again, hopefully I have some pearls I can share here also, this kind of info is invaluable.

[admin]

I should have mentioned that the filtering is sounding automated going from lower to mid freqs, you can hear it at 0:24-:26 so its reversing and filtering up at the same time. It might be bandpass or lowpass but with a little resonance to get the wah-wah type effect. At around 0:17-:18 its doing something similar but at a higher initial frequency.

I'd recommend the Dischord2 from Audio Damage. I bought it a while ago to replace my Eventide DSP4000 and it does a pretty good job, really handy for wierd stuff. There's a preset called microshift+1 or something similar which sounds like one of the effects on the vocal. It's pretty cheap so well worth it. There's another preset called Nightclubbing which is good for that off pitch topline effect used in a lot of the minimally type tracks.