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Bitfiend Wrote:Ok fellas, i went ahead and did the test, didn't want to wait till morning.
in Live 6, i had EQ3 and Waves TrueVerb on the channels and the L2 on the master.
I got up to 89 tracks running, the 90th put the CPU over the top. the WMT was tracking about about 5 counts below the CPU meter in Live.
So when Live hit 95%, WTM was hitting about 90% give or take one or two counts.
So, does that mean i specifically have an issue with Cubase?
Sure sounds like it. Try using the Waves Soundshifter P, it takes about 30% on my P4 for one instance.
I'd also take a look over at the Cubase forums to see if there are any issues with SX3 (I think thats the version you're using) and Quads.
Also you did say you have an AMD right? I did see that there was an ASIO meter issue with some AMD's, it would show higher usage than what was actually going on. There was a file to fix it.
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Ok just received some interesting info from Stef (many thanks!)
As you said the quad you have is really 2 duals so not a true quad unlike the penryn and therefore can exhibit some problems like these. Although this seems down to the application as Live looks to be working ok.
The newer penryn will be at 1333mhz which will be in sync with DDR3 ram which is also 1333, the current fsb's being 1066 at the moment.
Also Steinberg has done a patch for dual cores, so this could be your problem, best check into that as it seems the logical choice here.
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well i've been looking but have found no patch for Dual core processors at steinberg.......
did find out that on intel chips, hyperthreading is not supported and will actually slow down the system. nothing mentioned about AMD hyper-transporting though....
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http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Tech...18,00.html
AMD Athlon⢠64 X2 Dual Core Processor Driver for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 Version (x86 and x64 exe) 1.3.2.16
Try that one
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yeah that's for the Athlon CPU's to make up for thier short commings in dual chip situations. i run opteron's they is no short comming in these chips when running duals.
i've already gone thru the website and only found 1 applicable update and it is installed......
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any one have any more ideas on this bottle neck i've got going on?
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I've built about 10 reasonably fast computers, including 5 Digital Audio Workstations (one even for a famous producer that contributes here) and I have always used Intel chips. Never had a problem.
I know this doesn't help you but you may have to run your system as is until a patch or some workaround comes out. Sometimes the 'fastest' system isn't the best, as maybe it's not compatible with all the tools you have.
AMD in my opinion (I'm an electrical engineer by education) makes some really nice products for gaming and the like, but for DAWs I always stuck to Intel. AMD's instruction set pipelines and surrounding architecture is different from Intel, so it could be that the super beefy CPU's you are running don't quite jive with the applications. Software developers will always code to the largest market, so that would be Intel, considering they now even supply CPUs for the new Macs.
One option, albeit expensive, is to drop a DSP card like Scope into the box (if you have a PCI slot available, that is) to offload some of the tasks from the CPU.
Another option would be to try Cubase 4 to see if anything Steinberg did with the new release jives with your machine. Maybe borrow a copy from a friend before you spend the cash.
Hope that puts it into perspective a bit. I hope you get sorted.
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Bitfiend Wrote:any one have any more ideas on this bottle neck i've got going on?
Did you try loading some Waves Soundshifter P plugs into Ableton Live to see if it was able to max out nearer 100% true cpu usage? I have a feeling its an SX3 problem. What I gather is you've got a very new computer config yet running an app that prob wasn't written for it properly. Knowing Steinberg they've prob not been updating SX3 much now that Cubase 4 is out.
On the other hand Ableton 6 is still the current version so that would probably have a better chance of being supported.
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sorry it took me so long to do this. i did get up to 30 tracks in ableton with the soundshifter inserted and it only pegged the CPU at 3%....
intersting though, when i tried to shut ableton, it froze the system then i got the dialouge box "there's an error ableton must close.."
anyway must be a Cubase problem.
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That sucks, maybe you can try a different version of Cubase?
